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The Little Führer: Matthew Heimbach Goes All the Way

By Mark Potok on October 7, 2013 - 12:11 pm, Posted in Anti-Semitic, Neo-Nazi

Matthew Heimbach has finally crossed the Rubicon. Or was that the river Styx?

In the latest and most dramatic evidence of Heimbach’s transfiguration from a self-described “conservative” to a full-on neo-Nazi, a photograph has surfaced of the one-time founder of the White Student Union at Towson University sieg-heiling with a group of neo-Nazis and Klansmen (at far right in photo) standing under twin swastikas.

If that wasn’t good enough, on Oct. 4, the same day the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) first published the photo taken last month, Heimbach announced on his Traditionalist Youth Network (TYN) blog that he would be speaking at a Nov. 9 Kansas City rally put on by the National Socialist Movement (NSM), currently the nation’s largest neo-Nazi group. In the same breath, he said he will be marching on Oct. 12 in Murfreesboro, Tenn., in a rally against “demographic displacement” hosted by the League of the South, a hate group that wants the South to secede again in order to create a country ruled by “Anglo-Celts” — white people.

In posting the photo of Heimbach, the ADL noted that the event he attended was co-sponsored by the Aryan Terror Brigade, the NSM, the Knights of the Nordic Order and the Imperial Klans of America (IKA), which apparently hosted the event at its Kentucky compound. At least three of the groups have members who have been involved in criminal violence. In a 2008 civil lawsuit brought by the Southern Poverty Law Center against the IKA, based on three members’ beating of a teen they accused of being Latino, the group’s leader and others were ordered to pay a total of $2.5 million to the victim.

To Heimbach, however, these were all worthy allies. In his Oct. 4 post, he defiantly described such groups as all part of a “big White Advocacy tent” and sneered at those who would “throw [their] allies under the bus to achieve ‘respectability.’” He would not, he vowed, play “the SPLC’s Kevin Bacon ‘Six Degrees of Separation’ Game” — that is, being embarrassed by links to various groups. And, indeed, Heimbach displayed no shame. Instead, he described the NSM, a thuggish group that has worked hard to provoke violence, as having “an impressive record of street activism and grassroots organizing on behalf of White working folks.”

Well, sort of.

The NSM is the kind of group that long favored dressing up in full-fledged Nazi uniforms (lately, they’ve gotten into Italian fascist, black BDU-type outfits). Its leader, Jeff Schoep, typifies the membership: In 1998, Schoep was convicted of helping the mother of his daughter burglarize some $4,000 worth of computer equipment while four of her children waited in their getaway car. Much later, in 2011, Schoep left his wife, who was undergoing breast cancer treatments, and took up with a younger woman who makes a living as a fetish model.

Heimbach has been on a downward spiral since graduating from Towson, in Maryland, earlier this year. He has begun to talk of “conniving Jews” and “Jewish supremacists” (a phrase popularized by former Klan leader David Duke, who Heimbach now describes as a personal hero). He quotes terrorist assassin David Lane as another hero, and wore a pistol while speaking to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a descendant of the racist White Citizens Councils that resisted school desegregation in the 1950s and 1960s. He has begun calling for revolution and advocating a fight against “Jewish elites” and others.

Last month, he even explicitly endorsed racist violence. In a post on Stormfront, a Web forum run by a former Alabama Klan leader, Heimbach suggested a policy of retaliatory violence: “[Y]ou hurt ones [sic] of ours, we kill one of yours.”

  • MRJ

    Fetish models, Deviant Art, My Little Pony… this has become a hoot!

    Here’s a question: has anyone ever done a study or noticed the amount of White Supremacists (identified by numeric indicators in their names) on the Deviant Art site/pages?
    Just a thought.
    One of the reasons that I would never consider joining their site: some of my pieces are known, and it might just get me stalked further.

    I try to do art, some of it might be considered “deviant” (AHHHHH! RUUUNNNNN! NAKED PEOPLE!!!!) by others (and some here in my area have even tried to use that as a weapon for slander and SLAPP tactics against me), but to be totally realistic, the human form is the hardest for any artist to get right.

    Shy of gross exaggeration, or depraved associations with animals, children, and pain/violence of any kind, the study of the female or male form is tantamount to getting it right.

    Some artists, having no line of models to pose for them (Michael Angelo’s ‘David’ as an example: sparking hundreds of years of theological debate, and swinging this way and that about the fig leaf and the actual sex of his model), use photos found on-line to study.
    Is there some wrongfully perceived major malfunction in someone’s mind if they like looking at the opposite sex, or even their own if that is their orientation?

    I know what the “Right” thinks about this, and their insane attempts to deprive anyone from anywhere the rights to use “their galleries” if there is even the hint of any type of sexuality (personal experience in spades), but would the viewing and collection of images for application to artistic endeavor be considered “disgusting and dirty” by the people on this page, or the people whom I have repeatedly attempted to help me in a legal way to get out of this situation that I find myself in?

    Is art using the human form now one of those proscribed behaviors (or some “proof” of “mental instability” as has been bandied about locally) as an objectification of women?
    Some of us worship women, and the female form as that is our inclination, and have done historic (BC) goddess pendants as well as more realistic images in stone and metal… does this mean that I can no longer be considered as an thinking individual and consigned to the hairy ape pile?

  • Dan Zabetakis

    “Dan, Dan, Dan…I wouldn’t if I were you.”

    “Dan, for heaven’s sake. Please quit while you’re behind.”

    “Dan, not only are you mistaking your opinion for fact – you are also sounding creepy.”

    Geez, you people are square.

  • Erika

    Dan, not only are you mistaking your opinion for fact – you are also sounding creepy.

  • Aron

    Dan, for heaven’s sake. Please quit while you’re behind.

  • aadila

    Dan, Dan, Dan…I wouldn’t if I were you.

  • Dan Zabetakis

    “dan, i think that you are protesting way too much”

    I call it ‘being truthful’. If you say someone is a fetish model, and they are not, it doesn’t reflect very well on you.

    “considering that all modeling is rather exploitative of women and that men have fetishized every part of the female body”

    My what a very broad brush you have. This is the sort of thinking that leads to the burka. Not very PC, is it?

    ” you are arguing an distinction that simply does not exist.”

    I could show you some web pages that would clarify the difference between a typical model and a fetish model. But I suspect that your eyes would actually explode. The claim that there is no difference is franly absurd.

    ” how many of those deviations of the My Little Pony reveal the horrifying fact that there are men who actually want to have sex with it?”

    Not as many as you might think. I’d guess less than 10,000. But I’m unclear on why you refer to it as ‘horrifying’.

    I suspect that we aren’t reaching agreement because you have a value system that I really can’t grasp.

  • Erika

    and by the way, how many of those deviations of the My Little Pony reveal the horrifying fact that there are men who actually want to have sex with it???

  • Erika

    dan, i think that you are protesting way too much

    considering that all modeling is rather exploitative of women and that men have fetishized every part of the female body and every potential item of clothing that a woman can possibly wear i think that you are arguing an distinction that simply does not exist.

  • Dan Zabetakis

    Mark (and Erika),

    “Dryve By Suizhyde” seems to still exist but the others appear to be defunct clothing lines. They are indeed things that any ordinary model might pose for.

    I need to make one thing very clear: Deviant Art is not a fetishist deviant site. It is a straight art site (they call the art works ‘deviations’). I am a member although my talent is vanishingly low. While they do host models, photographers, and indeed fetishists, they also host many thousands of highly talented artists. For example, if you search for ‘rarity’ (one of the My Little Ponies) you get 168,000+ deviations.

    So, as far as I can tell, this woman is a normal model, doesn’t do nude, doesn’t do fetish, and as far as I can tell has never done porn. And as far as I can tell it is only hearsay that she is Schoep’s girlfriend.

    It is also only legit to make an issue of someone’s personal life if they are holding themselves up as a model of family values. I don’t think the neo-nazis can be accused of that.

    In other words, Schoep cannot be denounced for dating a fetish model. Being a fetish model and dating a fetish model are both Moral Goods as far as I am concerned. They can both be condemned for being fascists. We should limit ourselves to that.

    (I very much appreciate Mark for engaging us here in the comments.)

  • Erika

    and i have to wonder if the female hosts at Fox News get their shoes from Sinnister Heels :P

  • Erika

    yes, all of those businesses sound like perfectly normal businesses which any model would work at – especially Pure White Clothing which i presume sells wedding dresses and tennis dresses to wear at the All England Club :)

  • aadila

    I know next to nothing about this topic, and care even less, but, to be helpful, I will write to the IRS and see if they can include “fetish model” on the list of officially recognized professional categories for income tax filings. It must be a very difficult burden for her to have to write that in each year.

  • Mark Potok

    On the “fetish model” conversation, here’s a few lines from a story I wrote earlier, “Secrets of the Sisterhood,” that gives a sense of what she does:

    Indeed, Cami Lynn Debolt, 27, seems to spend most of her time as a “fetish model” — one who doesn’t do nudes, but just about everything short of that.

    Debolt has posed for her boyfriend’s record company, NSM Records, but most of her modeling credits are more related to the Internet group she has been a member of, Deviant Art. They include, according to a variety of her online ads and modeling profiles, entities like Evil Cheerleaders, Dryve By Suizhyde, Ballsy Babes Swimwear, Sinnister Heelz, Essential Latex, Alloy Latex, Skin Two Latex, Caress Latex, Liberator Latex, Adultcon and — what else? — Pure White Clothing.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    Actually even if that girlfriend were a fetish model it wouldn’t change the fact that Schoep has a long history of questionable dealings with women, being delinquent on child support, etc.

  • Erika

    Figures that a man would conduct research into that particular issue, Dan

    and it kind of sounds like you are disappointed :P

  • Dan Zabetakis

    OK, so I looked up Schoep’s supposed girlfriend. She is a model, but based on the images available online, and there are quite a few, I see no reason to call her a ‘fetish’ model. Her portfolio seems to be fairly typical for typical models (except that she models a range of nazi-themed T-shirts).

    My recommendation is to not call her a ‘fetish model’ since a) it isn’t true; and b) it seems to suggest that being a fetish model is wrong. Indeed, her profession is not relevant. Her politics are reprehensible, not her job.

  • Sam Molloy

    The good news is, the trains will run on time. The bad news is, you may not like where they go.

  • concernedcitizen

    What? I don’t even want to know what a fetish model is…

  • concernedcitizen

    Okay we all need to bow our heads and pray even harder to wish the imbecile regimes that march for hate and segregation, wish them back into the cornfields where they belong.

    A sign of a true looser those who promote racist hate and divide.

  • Klark

    Heimbach claims the Aryan Terror Brigade just happened to be there…


    … but we’ve got the goods

  • dinosaur

    Things could have been so different if this kid had found the Occupy movement before the racists. It seems like he shows up for any event on the WN social calendar. These groups are all over the “pro-white” ideological map. There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to his alliances.

    Has he distanced himself from his Christian beliefs? Last year he identified somewhat mysteriously as “orthodox Christian.”

    Christianity is odds with the NSM platform. I’d think he’s closer in spirit to the Klan and the Southern Nationalist CCoC/LoS. For most klans, Christianity is a core “white American” value.

    Not so for the IKA. It’s regarded as kind of a pariah by other klans because it works with the NSM and various flavors of skinheads who reject Christianity and revere Germany.

    Then as the post suggests WN generally ridicule the NSM.

    Heimbach’s all over the place in more ways than one. I don’t think he knows what he believes or what he’s doing.

    Maybe he is trying to make friends. If that’s the case he should hook up with Derek Black. They could spend a weekend in Vegas. That might set him on the right path before it’s too late and he gets involved in a criminal conspiracy.

  • ToeKnee BelowKnee

    He is not a neo nazi. He had a little fun. It’s about as serious as the jokes you all tell. Get over your over inflated self importance, folks.
    Kinism is historical Christianity. The Christian Doctrine of Nations is very sound.

  • The Shadow

    Matthew Heimbach is no longer a member of the League of the South and will not be going to the rally in Murfreesboro on Saturday.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    Fetish models would certainly go against what White Nationalists and Good Christian traditionalists like Heimbach claim to stand for. But then again this is par for the course for the movement. Schoep has a laundry list of quasi-criminal activities and dishonesty under his belt.

    Heimbach is on a collision course. To what, I shall not say.

  • supersonic250

    Reynardine: About your link…

    “…More seriously?” Honestly, that’s one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time. I was having a weird day, and that cheered me RIGHT the heck up to think of a buncha redneck idiots getting arrested through their own stupidity trying to attempt to do something that is not only illegal, but impossible.

    Thanks a bunch!

  • Matthew Bright

    I keep saying it — der little Fuhrer is on an unstoppable trajectory to a permanent home in the Florence, Colorado Supermax, along with Matt Hale and Terry Nichols.

    One could almost take bets on when it’s going to happen, but there’s a cell over there with his name on it, like Jack Nicholson in the Shining, when the caretaker’s ghost tells him, “You’ve always been here.”

    He can’t stop himself. Horrible.

  • Erika

    rey, i suspect that the type of fetish she specializes is one which views having swastika tatoos as a job requirement.

  • Scott Terry

    Mark Potok,

    I know you disagree with Heimbach’s effort here, but are you suggesting that racially self-conscious whites should *not* seek to congregate under one large tent in order to better utilize their numbers as a single block of advocacy?

    You certainly can’t disagree with that (if you do, I’d love to hear an argument for why people seeking political power should decentralize and disassociate).

    I think you realize the utility of Heimbach’s outreach here; you just maliciously disagree with his end-game, and hope he fails.

  • Reynardine

    Mark, it would nonetheless be still more indicative if the fetish were snuff or crush videos.

    More seriously, see this:

  • Jack Donovan

    I dunno, looks like they have a pretty cool beer hall.

  • Will

    “Withhold judgement until you know what kind of fetish”

    I have a feeling it involves jackboots.

  • aadila

    Yeah, Dan. I thought you said leave the high horse at home. What’s up with that?

  • Mark Potok

    My point wasn’t really that fetish models are bad people. What I was really pointing out was that Schoep is the kind of person who, shortly after finding out his wife had breast cancer, found a much younger womanto take up with of the sort that looks good in underpants and little else. I’m making a comment about the character of Schoep, not of his latest love interest.

  • Reynardine

    Dan: Withhold judgement until you know what kind of fetish.

  • Dan Zabetakis

    I object to this:

    “… and took up with a younger woman who makes a living as a fetish model.”

    You imply that that fetish models are in some state of disgrace equivalent to the other types described in this article. This _particular_ fetish model may be a bad person, but I don’t think you should stigmatize all the other, perfectly respectable, fetish models.

  • Ruslan Amirkhanov

    Heimbach doesn’t know what he’s getting into.

  • supersonic250

    Yeah… Who DIDN’T see this coming?

  • Reynardine

    I suspect that, like many another fascist creep, he has been emboldened by the actions of our noble House of Representatives.